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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (2.00 / 1)

As time has gone by, I have to think this may well be the case. Funny, there was a time in which this was considered to be nuts, but I don't think that's true anymore. They were just so bloodied by the end of that battle that it seemed they were both too weak to run on the same ticket. They've gotten stronger, though. I think one key thing it would take, though, would be Bill Clinton saying that he would be completely out of the picture and letting Hillary rule herself. Last thing we need is any of Bill's skeletons to get in the way.

All this being said, I still might be happier with Edwards. But we'll see how this overseas visit goes. If McCain doesn't pull another Geraldo and get him killed, that is.


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by vcalzone on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:17:36 PM EST

Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (none / 0)

Quick food for thought. If Obama DID decide that he wanted Hillary on board as VP awhile back, Solis Doyle may have been an inspiring choice. She always did good work for Hillary as chief of staff, but the conventional wisdom was that it was a slap in the face. If we see Clinton in there, it may have just been a very clever ruse.


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by vcalzone on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:19:33 PM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (2.00 / 1)

Yes I agree. So let's imagine for a moment that he chose Clinton a "long time ago" They would wnat to keep it quiet for many reasons. Choose the right moment for Senator Clinton to walk on stage and you will have a media frenzy. Timing is everything and Obama knows about timing and drama.


by Politicalslave on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:34:38 PM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (2.00 / 1)

They should get Vince McMahon to help. Nobody in the world has maximized dramatic entrances more than professional wrestling. They could make the house lights "go out" and then have her appear on stage with pillars of flames like Kane.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:51:59 PM EST
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hahahhaha (2.00 / 1)

thats the best thing i've read on this blog


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 11:32:08 PM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (none / 0)

That is so funny. I agree!


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 12:16:44 AM EST
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At the very least, Ric Flair's music... (2.00 / 1)

...Could start playing.


by andrewalker08 on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 09:33:12 AM EST
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Re: At the very least, Ric Flair's music... (none / 0)

At the very least! Ha ha


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 10:09:35 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (2.00 / 1)

Solis already said she could easily work with Clinton again.  

Here's a link to my recent diary on that topic: Does Patty Solis Doyle know something we don't?


by LakersFan on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 12:14:18 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (none / 0)

I just read your diary Thanks for posting it. I hadn't heard any of that.


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 12:24:19 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (none / 0)

And then there was yesterday's story about how Bill Clinton is eager to campaign with Obama (diaried here: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/7/17/1619 32/630).

It all makes me think something's afoot.


by LakersFan on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 12:30:50 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (none / 0)

When do you think Obama will anounce his choice?


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 12:35:51 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (none / 0)

I haven't given it any thought. I haven't seen any indications he's planning on announcing before the convention, have you?


by LakersFan on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 12:40:46 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (2.00 / 1)

No indications at all. I'm sure they will build things up as much as possible until Diaries like this are a dime a dozen. Ha ha


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 12:47:02 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (2.00 / 1)

Kerry: July 6
Gore: August 7
Clinton: July 10

So, probably soon, but they may wait for showmanship purposes. I'd personally love to see McCain have his VP leaked/announced... and then have all the media coverage focused on Clinton.


by TCQuad on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 12:53:29 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (none / 0)

Yes wouldn't that be great. Thanks for posting the history.


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 12:59:32 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (none / 0)

Unless... McCain does the smart thing and announces this week.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 03:41:14 AM EST
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Re: Obama /Clinton 08 Dream Team (none / 0)

It's true McCain might try something while Obama is away to grab some of the spotlight. He should drop out now that would get some news. Ha ha


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 04:38:41 AM EST
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Quite a mental error (2.00 / 1)

for a guy who claims to have a lot of experience.  McCain is lucky he said it on Firday afternoon.

McCain also has an opportunity while Obama is away; the timing of this trip is what concerns me the most as I'd rather have Obama go overseas during the Olympics, rather than a time when Americans are overwhelmingly focused on domestic concerns.

Someone has got to hold down the fort for Obama while he's away for quite some time (over a week?).  Perhaps it will be Hillary.


by Blazers Edge on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:20:33 PM EST
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Re: Quite a mental error (none / 0)

We'll see. McCain will look pretty stupid fighting against an absent opponent, particularly if he keeps up the nasty tenor we've seen the last couple of weeks. Meanwhile, Obama has tons of press with him. It won't be very hard for him to make news, so if he has productive talks, he should see a decent boost. Meanwhile, he has to have something pretty major planned for his speech in Berlin. Why else make a point to give one in front of an international audience?


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by vcalzone on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:24:04 PM EST
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I'm not sure if Americans (2.00 / 1)

will necessarily to buy into the idea that it would be an advantage for us internationally if our president were revered by Europeans, etc.  I think the best thing that Obama can do on this trip is to come off as someone who would be a great ambassador for how great we are as a country.  If he can pull that off, the trip will be a success.

The Republicans, starting with Rudy and Romney last week, were already preparing for Obama-mania in Europe by mocking him as running for the president of Europe.  We'll see how it plays out next week though my concern about the optics of McCain talking about domestic issues facing Americans while Obama is abroad remains.  

I would have liked the trip to come at a later time, perhaps after the VP was selected so that someone could hold down the fort for Obama while he's gone.


by Blazers Edge on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:28:54 PM EST
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Re: I'm not sure if Americans (none / 0)

They don't even need him there to put up a good A-game. They need to put together a series of ads that have been a long time coming, "The McCain/McCain Debates". Heard about another reversal just today on a federal emissions limit. And as usual, his turnaround time was about a month.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:33:02 PM EST
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Re: I'm not sure if Americans (none / 0)

Perhaps they could get somebody like Alec Baldwin to pretend to be the debate moderator.


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by vcalzone on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:33:46 PM EST
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Re: I'm not sure if Americans (none / 0)

As for Europe, I don't think it's as big a deal as the GOP would like it to be. You're right, he needs to focus on trying to win them over on behalf of America, and I think that's what he plans to do. I mean, why else try to speak at the Brandenburg Gate if not to talk about American diplomacy and the need for international cooperation?


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:37:45 PM EST
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Re: I'm not sure if Americans (none / 0)

At the same time, Obama needs strong surrogates back home.


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by politicsmatters on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:41:16 PM EST
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Re: I'm not sure if Americans (none / 0)

It will be interesting to see how things go at home while Obama is away. Expectations are very high for his trip abroad. I'm sure he will live up to the hype though.


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 01:05:40 AM EST
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Re: Quite a mental error (none / 0)

McCains track record shows that he is his own worst enemy. He doesn't seem to know what he stands for. He is used to everyone agreeing with him. So he isn't used to follow up questions or criticism.


by Politicalslave on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:39:40 PM EST
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Re: Quite a mental error (none / 0)

Yeah, people keep saying, "Oh, McCain's getting better, McCain's getting better.." BULL. If he hasn't gotten better before now, he's not going to. If Obama's campaign can actually force the media's hand into doing their job by continuing to highlight McCain's flaws and misconceptions, this election is not even close. They want to push the flip-flop meme, and it is really awful, because McCain has done far more severe turns in far more public venues.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:45:14 PM EST
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Re: Quite a mental error (none / 0)

That's a good point after all this time we shouldn't expect much improvement. I was actually thinking he would get better but now thanks to you and McCain I realize this is his "best"


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 01:09:59 AM EST
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Edwards did a lousy job as VP candidate last time (none / 0)

I hope he's not on the ticket.  Would love him in the cabinet tho


by activatedbybush on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 09:37:11 PM EST
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Re: Edwards (none / 0)

Agree. He's a great advocate, only an average candidate.


by TCQuad on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 01:02:23 AM EST
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